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I’m the same way - don’t follow it at all, and I get my info from friends and videos. But the whole Sarah Palin “I’m against abortion of any kind, even in the case of rape victims and hey, you rape victims even get to pay for your own rape kits even though I don’t make any other victims pay for THEIR medical exams” thing makes me pro-Obama all the way.
I’m not an Obama fan and you see me daily at work.
But I agree with you that discussing politics is like discussing religion. It is on the same level. I also don’t follow politics much myself. I am under the assumption that these candidates will say anything to get elected, whether they actually mean it or not. It is all a publicity campaign. They can say whatever they like during the campaign but what they actually do when in office is a totally different thing. Therefore I tend not to vote. Also they both have things I agree with and both have things I disagree with. Overall I don’t believe a word out of their mouth as again, I feel they will say anything to get elected, raise their popularity, etc. So in my mind, no matter what they say, none of it really matters. But hey, just my opinion. But I’m definitely not an Obama fan, mostly because he tends to side with people that think our government is supposed to take care of us, instead of allowing us to take care of ourself. I am not a fan of government intervention in almost any situation. And that definitely include the recent bailout of financial institutions. Anyway, later dude.
Have you seen this?
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
@mia,
You might not agree with Palin on abortion, but.. do you agree with Obama with his stance on (not abortion) but not protecting already born (alive) babies.. aka infanticide.
Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo also
http://www.bornalivetruth.org.
later
I’m definitely not a McCain fan. I’ve been paying attention to both AZ Senators’ antics for my adult life, and I know way too much about McCain that I don’t like, although there are some admirable qualities there as well - or rather, there were, until he abandoned them in favor of garnering more right-wing votes.
I started off being an Obama fan, but he, too, flipped on many of the things I liked about him. His change of heart on campaign finance and on FISA are two recent examples, but there are more.
Until this election, I’ve rarely discussed politics with anyone, because I felt as you do now, that the discussion was not likely to be useful or change anyone’s mind, that it was like discussing religion. But I’ve learned that discussion *can* be of value if the goal of the discussion is a mutual quest for truth. If you start with “I heard this,” and then you look into the context and facts, and emerge knowing more than you did before, then you learn, and that’s good.
The video that T linked you to does not represent truthful discourse. I could only watch half of it, I admit, because I’ve seen all of the first half before during this endless campaign. Before taking any of it to heart, I recommend you look into the context prior to making up your mind. For example, I watched the entire sermon given by Reverend Wright, and even though the excerpt shown in that video freaked me out when I first saw it, once I watched the whole sermon and had the context, I can say I understand where he was coming from and any objection I had to that snippet of it is now much minimized.
As to Obama attending a Muslim school in Indonesia for a couple years when he was a little kid? Big deal. Indonesia is a nearly 90% Muslim country - I doubt any other type of school was even available. What were his parents supposed to do, not send him to school at all? I have a friend whose parents sent him to Jesuit school because they provided a better education than the local public school. He did not grow up to be a Jesuit. But in college, he blew everyone else away because he had a superior education.
Did any of us pick our own name? Or are we stuck with the name our parents chose for us? It makes as much sense for me to freak out that McCain has an Irish name, so he must fit the Irish stereotype of being a foul-mouthed drunk with a bad temper and he believes in fairies, right? Or I should be upset that my friend YaaTaah, who grew up in the USA and graduated with a masters from Columbia, had a dad from Ghana, and, *oh my god* her name means “girl born on Tuesday” and she must be some kind of evil foreigner in disguise.
My point is, that video is designed to trigger the fear of the unknown in U.S. citizens, play on their prejudices, and misdirect them from the real issues that need to be considered. Don’t fall for it. If it worries you, look into the context before you decide to be disturbed by it. Yes, it takes time and it’s a pain, but it’s the only way to make an informed decision, and that’s the responsibility of a voter.
PS, consider checking out this site: http://glassbooth.org/
It asks you to prioritize the issues important to you & then matches that info up to the candidates that are most aligned with your priorities. For each candidate there are links to video, articles and other research to support the match-up. Sull told me about it & I’ve found it very helpful.
Hey Clint, I respect your admittance about not following politics too closely. But I really disagree that politics shouldn’t be talked about publicly! For me politics is nothing like religion. By it’s very definition, a Republic is rooted in its connection to the people. If we don’t talk about and debate these issues, we’re doomed to have policy created “around us” and “to us” instead of “with us.” It seems to me like you’re interested in the issues and you want to participate in the discussion, but maybe you are overwhelmed by the circus of it all, or you’re busy with your family (totally understandable). Try starting small at a site like http://glassbooth.com where you can explore the issues and candidates in bite-size pieces.
I consider myself an Independent, so I’m not here to push one candidate or another. You’re my friend and you’re a smart guy, and I think given the facts you will make the right decision for you and your family. Good luck on your political journey. I’m just here to nudge you along.
Heh.. I didn’t see Cheryl’s linkage to Glassbooth when I wrote my comment. We covered it months ago on EPIC FU and it really is a great website.
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@All
Video link posted…. I care more about the later 1/2 of the video than Obama’s name. One must weight in on ANY topic and see if ANY / either side presents information correctly and if any of the points are valid. Then they must weight this with their own “gut” instinct.
it’s about balance. It happens on any and nearly all topics. Global warming, do enough research and you’ll see many of the studies had an agenda when they received their funding and they pretty much studied what they wanted to prove their point. I’m not for trashing the planet, but this is another topic that has some misguided info / hype and plays on emotions.
Back to obama, I care less about his name, however he clearly has voted “present” on many topics. IMO that’s worse than being absent. It’s like showing up for school only to sleep thru class. Not picking a side is worse than picking a side. An election is about issues and if someone just doesn’t pick an issue, that’s just lame.
I *do* need to research a bit more about his pastor and however from the digging I have done, and some of the general feelings on the video I do question the “If you’re not black you’re against us” mindset. It has nothing to do with the color of my skin, or about being proud of your roots, it’s about that not helping with ending racism.
Political views and spiritual beliefs *are* something we *should* talk about. In some countries they can’t talk about these things freely. Later in life and in the end don’t you think this is a little more important than the newest camera I want or what the seasonal drink at starbucks is.
Why people avoid these topics is they’ve met someone who won’t shut up and doesn’t understand that it’s about listening, not just “preaching” their agenda. It’s the same story for using social media for your product… just don’t be “that guy”. I do like getting know people personally and also business friends who have different views than myself. When you mutually like & respect each other *then* find out they have different views it’s usually a better conversation b/c you are friends, not about “being right”. It stretches you as well and helps you understand all sides.
OK, before this is a book, i’m out!
I cant belive it… wow….. your an OBAMA supporter right on clint ^5 even though what ive been hearing is ARIZONA that they’re really not for mccain by what I am hearing that he has a weak lead in Arizona?
Myself, I am DEF have made up my mind I am voting Obama this Nov. This will be my first time voting so im kinda worried but… I cant wait America really needs a change!
But I agree thats all Mccain is for is OIL, WAR, and BS like that.
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